[Green-Activist] Dave Pollard'sreview of"Heat" (GeorgeMonbiot-UK)BAYES_00=-2.599, SUBJ_HAS_SPACES=0.87, X_PRIORITY_HIGH=0.433]

[frank]

Bill,

I'd like to see negative population growth and humans are responsible about 
having children. This is where education comes in.  i.e.: if a couple can't 
afford to breed, they don't.  Once a couple have replaced themselves they 
stop.  No "one for the country".  No government funding for all artificial 
breeding programs.  Gov funding only available for two births per woman, 
unless one or all her children have died.  No "baby bonuses", no funds for 
child minding.  Parents get proper free education and free health care, the 
rest they pay for.  If employers want women to work for them, they can fund 
child minding.

Not all women and men are suited, or want to be parents.  This is one area 
where those "Christian values" kicks in.  Those people who don't want, or 
aren't suited to be parents are made to feel second class citizens.  So they 
breed because they want to fit in.  It's a disaster for the parents and the 
children.

Bill, to be sustainable world human population has to be reduced by almost 
two thirds.  In Australia we're lucky.  We've only got to reduce our 
population by about half.

By the way, don't ask me to defend those estimates.  I'm not getting bogged 
down in a logistics debate.  We've got the internet now.  You can check out 
the facts for yourself.

frank

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "bill and mika" <mikabill at aapt.net.au>
To: "maillist for Green Activists" <green-activist at lists.altnews.com.au>
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 6:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Green-Activist] Dave Pollard'sreview of"Heat" 
(GeorgeMonbiot-UK)BAYES_00=-2.599, SUBJ_HAS_SPACES=0.87, 
X_PRIORITY_HIGH=0.433]


> Frank
> so you are outlying zero population growth or do we just totally stop 
> having children.
> bill
>
> frank wrote:
>> Bill,
>> I gave the short version in my reply to Anne.  But basically it's 
>> Education and Government doesn't fund breeding.  I'd suggest we do this 
>> in our own country first, then apply this philosophy to foreign aid. 
>> Last time i looked, that was The Greens Policy outline.
>>
>> I promote human population decrease because it's the underlying CAUSE of 
>> all our environmental woes, as well as most of our social environmental 
>> woes.
>>
>> Things like global warming, species extinction, wars, poverty, 
>> practically anything bad, as a matter of fact, are only EFFECTS.  It's no 
>> good tackling them alone.  If human population continues to grow, we'll 
>> never get on top of them.  Simple!  Most stuff is, u know.  That's why 
>> "they" label them "simplistic".  Doesn't mean they're wrong.
>>
>> frank
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "bill and mika" <mikabill at aapt.net.au>
>> To: "maillist for Green Activists" <green-activist at lists.altnews.com.au>
>> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 8:20 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Green-Activist] Dave Pollard's review of"Heat" 
>> (GeorgeMonbiot-UK)BAYES_00=-2.599, SUBJ_HAS_SPACES=0.87, 
>> X_PRIORITY_HIGH=0.433]
>>
>>
>>> Hi Frank how do you propose we reduce the population?
>>>
>>> frank wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Call for human population reduction to start immediately.  Call for the 
>>>> stoppage of all foreign aid unless the recipients don't breed.
>>>> frank brown
>>>>
>>>>
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