[Green-Activist] Inappropriate language on this mailing list.

frank wetherbystn at bigpond.com
Mon Apr 2 12:42:06 EST 2007


Which message are u referring to Clemens?

Are u referring to the one where i used the "f" word?  If so, that's exactly 
what i'm on about in my reply to Roy's post re Nazis.  Millions of 
Australians don't find the word offensive.  Instead we see it as a very 
descriptive term to describe an extremely bad situation, a sex act and a way 
to express an urgent request.  eg "f off".  However, there are intolerant 
people who object to the use of the word, because of some warped view.

I maintain, that while they are allowed to hold those views, they are not 
allowed to force their views on the rest of us.  They must accept the fact 
that we don't hold these views.

U will, however note that i don't use that kind of language often.  Only 
when a point needs to be emphasized.

Although from the thrust of your post, i get the impression that u are 
talking about more than that particular post.  Much along the lines Chris 
attempted to use.  "worrying"

The people  i was "short", (i never swore at them), with were all having a 
go at me personally, not debating the issues i raised.  Or even worse, 
coming back with absurd arguments.  Despite this, i gave Roy tips on how to 
get his letters to the editor published, debated their arguments, and 
answered any criticisms i was going to bother with.

Therefore i think picking on me, only, is a bit harsh.  And, yes, i believe 
u are, in the nicest possible way, of coarse, asking for, "censorship 
(ouch...) on this mailing list."

frank brown

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Clemens Vermeulen - Listmaster" <listmaster at altnews.com.au>
To: "maillist for Green Activists" <green-activist at lists.altnews.com.au>
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 1:21 PM
Subject: [Green-Activist] Inappropriate language on this mailing list.


> Message especially for Frank...
>
> While I generally appreciate your contributions to this green-activist 
> mailing
> list I must admit that I have been frequently taken aback over the 
> language
> you choose to use in your posts.
>
> In general standards in Australia are slipping fast. The fact that 
> standards
> have deteriorated over the years in my mind does not give you licence.
>
> If you would take the time to develop your argument without having to 
> revert
> to outright profanities I suggest people would value your posts and your
> position more.
>
> I do not wish to impose moderation or censorship (ouch...) on this mailing
> list. Your message today makes it hard for me to wholeheartedly maintain 
> that
> position.
>
> Please consider.
>
> Have a great weekend,
>
> -- 
> Clemens Vermeulen
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> Alternative News Network
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