[Green-Activist] Inappropriate language on this mailing list.

[pt33708256-pete]

Frank,
OK I will pick on only you too. I don't have a problem with either using 
the f word myself liberally amongst friends or hearing it used by 
others, but it depends on the context. Call it protocol, or manners if 
you wish. Using coarse language of any kind within a large public group 
in an emotional tirade does more to decrease your credibility than to 
enhance it. This is why you almost never hear politicians swear. But you 
don't need to appear slimey or sickly sweet.
There was once a saying that: Gentlemen rarely swear, but when they do 
you know they really mean it. Swearing, once it becomes common 
vernacular loses its potency and simply debases the user in the eyes of 
others.
If you can't say what you want to without coarse language then it's time 
to brush up on your communication skills.
Bottom line is this: I, for one, am not offended by your language one 
tiny bit, but when you debase yourself in such a way I don't take one 
tiny bit of notice of what you are trying to say.
I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks this way.

Cheers,
Peter

frank wrote:
> Which message are u referring to Clemens?
>
> Are u referring to the one where i used the "f" word?  If so, that's exactly 
> what i'm on about in my reply to Roy's post re Nazis.  Millions of 
> Australians don't find the word offensive.  Instead we see it as a very 
> descriptive term to describe an extremely bad situation, a sex act and a way 
> to express an urgent request.  eg "f off".  However, there are intolerant 
> people who object to the use of the word, because of some warped view.
>
> I maintain, that while they are allowed to hold those views, they are not 
> allowed to force their views on the rest of us.  They must accept the fact 
> that we don't hold these views.
>
> U will, however note that i don't use that kind of language often.  Only 
> when a point needs to be emphasized.
>
> Although from the thrust of your post, i get the impression that u are 
> talking about more than that particular post.  Much along the lines Chris 
> attempted to use.  "worrying"
>
> The people  i was "short", (i never swore at them), with were all having a 
> go at me personally, not debating the issues i raised.  Or even worse, 
> coming back with absurd arguments.  Despite this, i gave Roy tips on how to 
> get his letters to the editor published, debated their arguments, and 
> answered any criticisms i was going to bother with.
>
> Therefore i think picking on me, only, is a bit harsh.  And, yes, i believe 
> u are, in the nicest possible way, of coarse, asking for, "censorship 
> (ouch...) on this mailing list."
>
> frank brown
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Clemens Vermeulen - Listmaster" <listmaster at altnews.com.au>
> To: "maillist for Green Activists" <green-activist at lists.altnews.com.au>
> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 1:21 PM
> Subject: [Green-Activist] Inappropriate language on this mailing list.
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>> Message especially for Frank...
>>
>> While I generally appreciate your contributions to this green-activist 
>> mailing
>> list I must admit that I have been frequently taken aback over the 
>> language
>> you choose to use in your posts.
>>
>> In general standards in Australia are slipping fast. The fact that 
>> standards
>> have deteriorated over the years in my mind does not give you licence.
>>
>> If you would take the time to develop your argument without having to 
>> revert
>> to outright profanities I suggest people would value your posts and your
>> position more.
>>
>> I do not wish to impose moderation or censorship (ouch...) on this mailing
>> list. Your message today makes it hard for me to wholeheartedly maintain 
>> that
>> position.
>>
>> Please consider.
>>
>> Have a great weekend,
>>
>> -- 
>> Clemens Vermeulen
>> Listmaster
>> Alternative News Network
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