[Green-Activist] Inappropriate language on this mailing list.

[frank]

Exactly my point, Pete.

In all the years i've posted on this list, i've only swore once.

frank brown

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "pt33708256-pete" <ptera at adderley.net>
To: "maillist for Green Activists" <green-activist at lists.altnews.com.au>
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 3:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Green-Activist] Inappropriate language on this mailing list.


> Frank,
> OK I will pick on only you too. I don't have a problem with either using
> the f word myself liberally amongst friends or hearing it used by
> others, but it depends on the context. Call it protocol, or manners if
> you wish. Using coarse language of any kind within a large public group
> in an emotional tirade does more to decrease your credibility than to
> enhance it. This is why you almost never hear politicians swear. But you
> don't need to appear slimey or sickly sweet.
> There was once a saying that: Gentlemen rarely swear, but when they do
> you know they really mean it. Swearing, once it becomes common
> vernacular loses its potency and simply debases the user in the eyes of
> others.
> If you can't say what you want to without coarse language then it's time
> to brush up on your communication skills.
> Bottom line is this: I, for one, am not offended by your language one
> tiny bit, but when you debase yourself in such a way I don't take one
> tiny bit of notice of what you are trying to say.
> I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks this way.
>
> Cheers,
> Peter
>
> frank wrote:
>> Which message are u referring to Clemens?
>>
>> Are u referring to the one where i used the "f" word?  If so, that's 
>> exactly
>> what i'm on about in my reply to Roy's post re Nazis.  Millions of
>> Australians don't find the word offensive.  Instead we see it as a very
>> descriptive term to describe an extremely bad situation, a sex act and a 
>> way
>> to express an urgent request.  eg "f off".  However, there are intolerant
>> people who object to the use of the word, because of some warped view.
>>
>> I maintain, that while they are allowed to hold those views, they are not
>> allowed to force their views on the rest of us.  They must accept the 
>> fact
>> that we don't hold these views.
>>
>> U will, however note that i don't use that kind of language often.  Only
>> when a point needs to be emphasized.
>>
>> Although from the thrust of your post, i get the impression that u are
>> talking about more than that particular post.  Much along the lines Chris
>> attempted to use.  "worrying"
>>
>> The people  i was "short", (i never swore at them), with were all having 
>> a
>> go at me personally, not debating the issues i raised.  Or even worse,
>> coming back with absurd arguments.  Despite this, i gave Roy tips on how 
>> to
>> get his letters to the editor published, debated their arguments, and
>> answered any criticisms i was going to bother with.
>>
>> Therefore i think picking on me, only, is a bit harsh.  And, yes, i 
>> believe
>> u are, in the nicest possible way, of coarse, asking for, "censorship
>> (ouch...) on this mailing list."
>>
>> frank brown
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Clemens Vermeulen - Listmaster" <listmaster at altnews.com.au>
>> To: "maillist for Green Activists" <green-activist at lists.altnews.com.au>
>> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 1:21 PM
>> Subject: [Green-Activist] Inappropriate language on this mailing list.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Message especially for Frank...
>>>
>>> While I generally appreciate your contributions to this green-activist
>>> mailing
>>> list I must admit that I have been frequently taken aback over the
>>> language
>>> you choose to use in your posts.
>>>
>>> In general standards in Australia are slipping fast. The fact that
>>> standards
>>> have deteriorated over the years in my mind does not give you licence.
>>>
>>> If you would take the time to develop your argument without having to
>>> revert
>>> to outright profanities I suggest people would value your posts and your
>>> position more.
>>>
>>> I do not wish to impose moderation or censorship (ouch...) on this 
>>> mailing
>>> list. Your message today makes it hard for me to wholeheartedly maintain
>>> that
>>> position.
>>>
>>> Please consider.
>>>
>>> Have a great weekend,
>>>
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