[Green-Activist] mail to greens national office

Sun Dec 30 20:05:21 EST 2007

Dear Chris,

I joined the greens in Queensland a few years after the Green party was 
formed.  I joined the year The Greens preferenced the libs.  I didn't think 
that was a good idea, but i joined because back then The Greens was 
determined to NOT to be a preference gatherer for either major party.  The 
grand plan then was to "sell" preferences to the highest bidder.  The 
currency was environmental projects.

In that election the green vote was pulling 10 %.  As the internal power 
struggle raged.  Labor stooges v those who wanted to trade preferences.  The 
green vote fell to the lows u happily quote.

By the way, trading preferences isn't the way to go either, in my opinion. 
All that got is a few national parks which are mismanaged to the max.

The environment has gone from, "enviro,what?", to one of the top three on 
the voters wish list in the last 20 years.  The Greens performance is 
lagging way behind that.

I don't expect a response, Chris.

frank brown

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Chaplin & Jenny Heland Chaplin" <chrisjen at techinfo.com.au>
To: "maillist for Green Activists" <green-activist at lists.altnews.com.au>
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 7:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Green-Activist] mail to greens national office

> Sorry to disappoint everyone with some facts, but the Greens vote has
> continued to climb, even in an election where the majority of voters were
> focussed on changing or retaining the government rather than on voting for 
> a
> minor party.
>
> Nationally, the Greens vote increased by 0.60% to a new record 967,781
> primary votes (7.79%) in the lower house.  This represents 126,047 more
> Greens voters than the last election in 2004, when we polled 7.19%.  By
> comparison, in 2001 our national lower house vote was 569,075 (4.96%); in
> 1998 it was just 290,709 (2.62%).
>
> The change in the last 10 years has been dramatic.  In 1998, the Greens 
> were
> behind Hanson's One Nation (8.43%), the Nationals (5.29%) and the 
> Democrats
> (5.13%).  In 2007, the Greens cemented themselves as the official third
> party of Australian politics, over a quarter of a million votes ahead of 
> the
> Nationals (5.49%), and more than the combined primary vote of all other
> parties (including Family First 1.99%, CDP Christian Party 0.84%, 
> Democrats
> 0.72%, One Nation 0.26%, Citizens Electoral Council 0.22%).
>
> The Greens are now within reach of winning key ALP seats in the lower 
> house.
> Lindsay Tanner's seat of Melbourne is now officially a Labor-Green 
> marginal
> (see http://vtr.aec.gov.au/HouseDivisionFirstPrefs-13745-228.htm), with 
> the
> Greens polling 22.8% primary vote and 45.29% after preferences, thus 
> needing
> only a 4.71% swing to win this key seat.  Other seats that will challenge
> the ALP in 2010 include Sydney (20.71%) and Batman (17.17%).
>
> In the Senate, the Greens broke through the one-million barrier, picking 
> up
> 1,144,751 primary votes nationally.  Our 9.04% was a strong 1.37% increase
> over the 2004 Senate result, and delivered us two new Senators - Scott
> Ludlam from WA, and Sarah Hanson-Young from SA (South Australia's 
> first-ever
> Greens Senator).  With five Senators from July 2008, the Greens will now 
> be
> accorded official "party" status within the Senate, delivering us critical
> additional staff and resources.
>
> Looking to the future: with K.Rudd now in power, we can expect the Greens
> vote to strengthen in the next Federal election as Labor voters become
> disenchanted with the ALP's failure to properly address climate change,
> spiralling fuel and energy costs and the ongoing housing affordability
> crisis.  The Greens should pick up new Senators in Vic & NSW, and quite
> possibly in ACT, SA and Qld; and we could win lower house seats in 
> Melbourne
> & Sydney leading to the distinct possibility of the ALP having to form a
> Labor-Green coalition government.
>
> As Frank might be aware, trees don't spring up overnight.  The Greens too
> are growing every year, and it won't be long before they are able to wield
> genuine power in parliament.
>
> Chris Chaplin
> PS Frank, don't be surprised if your email to the Greens national office
> doesn't get a formal response.  They get lots of crank emails like that, 
> and
> there's no point wasting time forwarding them to me, as I'd just bin them
> myself.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "bill&mika" <mikabill at aapt.net.au>
> To: "maillist for Green Activists" <green-activist at lists.altnews.com.au>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2007 9:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [Green-Activist] mail to greens national office
>
>
>> Hi Frank although i agree that we have not increased our vote and we are
>> tied to the ALP we need to position ourselves somewhere. until one of the
>> major parties falls appart we are stuck in this horrible position.
>> bill weller
>>
>>
>> frank wrote:
>>> Dear all,
>>> Below is mail i sent to The Greens national office in reply to their
>>> election summery.
>>>
>>> Nice spin, but the fact is The Greens are wallowing in the mud.  The 
>>> vote
>>> has hardly changed in the last 10 years.
>>>
>>> Keeping The Greens vote low when the environment has become a major
>>> election issue is an outstanding achievement for the infiltrators.
>>>
>>> While the party's management remains in the hands of the labor stooges,
>>> The Greens can look forward to being a minor party till the 
>>> environmental
>>> situation degenerates to a state where the world economic system
>>> collapses and anarchy rules.  Not too long afterwards humans will
>>> probably go extinct. But before we do, we'll probably wipe out most of
>>> the other species.
>>>
>>> These events won't be long in coming, so i want the labor stooges who've
>>> succeeded in making The Greens into a preference gatherer for the Labor
>>> Party, rather than a party in it's own right, to remember what they've
>>> done as they are being killed and eaten by other humans.
>>>
>>> frank brown
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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