[Green-Activist] Australia's immigration record
Roy Garner
rrgarner at bigpond.net.au
Sun Mar 11 01:07:19 EST 2007
By the way, Frank
Visit Sydney and see the face of Australia tomorrow. There's nothing
you can (or should) do about it.
Instead of attacking immigrants for the woes of the world, why don't
you turn your reforming energies on the real villains--those
politicians who work hand-in-hand with the miners and other exploiters
of the world's resources etc. etc., and won't do anything (although
they'll say a lot of bull in an election year) about climate change, or
who won't do anything to make housing more affordable for everyone,
especially the homeless; and the aggressive marketers who push their
products onto people, whether or not they need them.
The oil crisis will hit home in the next few years (by the way, there's
no substitute for aviation fuel yet) and the system will pretty much
start grinding to a halt unless the international community throws its
weight behind alternatives and sustainables.
The problems arising from the coming oil crisis will see millions out
of work, cars off the roads, fuel monopolised by governments for
emergency services and the military, and thousands of superhighways, on
which profligate politicians have spent billions, with little traffic
on them. And this is only the beginning. International travel will
only be for the mega-rich, if they can find someone to fly them, and
holiday destinations will disappear into mothballs or cobwebs, or the
jungle. Add to this the rising waters from climate change, predicted
to create millions of refugees worldwide.
I'm not sure where your blood lust for war criminals will lead, but
it's surely not along the primrose path. Take a holiday while you can
before taking a ringside seat for the unfolding climate change and oil
crisis circus. And don't forget to harvest your rainwater, tend your
vegie patch and watch ABC's famous gardening host, Peter Cundall, who's
just turned 80!
rg
On 10/03/2007, at 8:41 PM, frank wrote:
> Dear Bruce,
>
> Why are u posting your leftist views on a green website? Put your
> junk on a labor site. ANYONE WHO PROMOTES ANY KIND OF HUMAN
> IMMIGRATION INTO AN ALREADY OVERPOPULATED AUSTRALIA IS AS GREEN AS A
> BITUMEN ROAD!
>
> I'm well aware that leftists have driven greenies out of The Greens
> and now are firmly in control of the party, but that doesn't mean that
> greenies are going to sit still while u things push your idiot
> policies under the opuses of green politics.
>
> All true greens could do to alleviate the detention policies of the
> vile Howard government, would be to immediately repatriate these
> people to the country from which they came. If that causes their
> death. So be it. Humans are not an endangered species. True
> greenies couldn't even let in the people Howard has. Both legal and
> illegal. Greens would have to shut the gate!
>
> Real greenies would be promising to hand Howard and his cabinet over
> to the United Nations to be tried and then hung for crimes against
> humanity. If we did this, it would put pressure on Briton and America
> to do the same. We could well get Bush and Blair hung too.
>
> If we did, u could bet that governments of the major powers would be
> far less likely to invade other countries with impunity. Not to
> mention the fact that such a promise would draw a heap of votes away
> from labor. Might even get some off the libs too, u never know.
>
> Anyway why don't u commies go away. You're junk ideas have been
> around for about 100 years now and nobody wants them. As a matter of
> fact, communism is one of the major causes of environmental
> degradation. Where it's been tried in a big way are the most polluted
> countries in the world.
>
> So i say to all communist trash, "Do the planet a favour. Go away and
> die!"
>
> frank brown
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Bruce Dyer/ Harideva
>> To: HD
>> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 9:22 AM
>> Subject: [Green-Activist] Australia's immigration record
>>
>> From: A & J Nield ajnield at aapt.net.au
>> To: DIMA c/o Sandi Logan
>> Cc: MP Andrews, Kevin Lib (Vic Menzies) Min Assis PM for PS;Min Immi
>> & Citizenship
>> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 10:52 AM
>> Subject: Reply to Katy Skinner,Director Protection Client Support &
>> Liaison Section
>>
>>
>> Attention Katy Skinner, Director Protection Client Support & Liaison
>> Section:
>> Dear Ms Skinner,
>> Thanks for your reply March 2nd 2007 to my email of 20th December
>> 2006 to the former Minister of Immigration, Amanda Vanstone
>> concerning individuals in immigration detention who have applied for
>> protection visas.
>>
>> Thankyou for explaining the immigration detention processes that are
>> in place
>> that "assures the unsuccessful claimants are available for removal
>> from Australia";
>> that the RRT has "an obligation to provide a mechanism of review that
>> is fair, just, economical, informal and quick";
>> that "appropriately trained health and mental health professionals
>> are used to meet the clinical and support needs of people in
>> detention";
>> that the "department has implemented a number of improvements to
>> health care";
>> that you have been "advised that Baxter Centre Executive is
>> exercising his authority appropriately" when he ignores the
>> recommendation of a psychiatric assessment and that "Australia has a
>> proud and long tradition as a resettlement destination for refugees
>> from around the world".
>>
>>
>> Indefinite detention under DIAC may work for some as you have
>> described, but for hundreds I know it is nothing like the positive
>> process you present. In fact it just rubs salt into the wounds of
>> asylum seekers and those who care for them, including the GSL service
>> providers, who suffer high levels of stress for the un-natural things
>> they have to do to innocent people, to the nurses and health
>> professionals who are prevented from fulfilling their caring oaths,
>> to those staff of DIAC who see the un-necessary suffering and to the
>> long suffering people who are ashamed of the evil of indefinite
>> imprisonment yet cannot turn their backs on the victims. I do recall
>> just one Iranian young man, now working in Whyalla who was relatively
>> unscathed by just a few months of Baxter detention but I've seen far
>> too many eventually recognised as refugees but damaged by years of
>> abuse and victimisation.
>>
>> No matter what flowery language is used, driving innocent people to
>> insanity by holding them for up to eight years just so they can be
>> "available for removal" is the twisted idea of a sadist.
>>
>> Pretending that taking away a person's freedom, dignity, choice and
>> right to work can be counteracted by providing "health professionals
>> to meet the clinical and support needs of people in detention" is the
>> product of a government stripped of conscience, drunk with power and
>> raped of self respect by its so called leaders. Spending millions of
>> dollars to abuse a class of people just to appear strong on border
>> protection is a crime against humanity amongst the worst of history.
>>
>> How can you write that "Australia HAS a proud and long tradition as a
>> resettlement destination for refugees around the world" without
>> acknowledging that ten years of Coalition rule has taken Australia
>> from near the top to near the bottom for human rights observance?
>>
>> Allan Nield, Whyalla.
>>
>>
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