[Green-Activist] Australia's immigration record

Mon Mar 12 12:11:05 EST 2007

Actually, i smile and laugh a lot.  If i didn't see the joke a man would go mad being a member of the foulest species on earth. 

Wouldn't know Enoch Powell if i fell over him/her.

My ancestors came out of the trees and before that out of the ocean, same as everybody else's.  What's your point?

frank brown 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Roy Garner 
  To: maillist for Green Activists 
  Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 11:46 PM
  Subject: Re: [Green-Activist] Australia's immigration record

  Oh, dear! So much bile!
  Are you an Alkaseltzer junkie? 
  Tell us, Frank, where do you/your ancestors come from? Are you related to Enoch Powell? 
  If I were a tree, I wouldn't let you hang anything from my branches!
  Go on, Frank: smile! It won't hurt :) :)
  rg

  On 10/03/2007, at 8:41 PM, frank wrote:

    Dear Bruce,

    Why are u posting your leftist views on a green website?  Put your junk on a labor site.  ANYONE WHO PROMOTES ANY KIND OF HUMAN IMMIGRATION INTO AN ALREADY OVERPOPULATED AUSTRALIA IS AS GREEN AS A BITUMEN ROAD!

    I'm well aware that leftists have driven greenies out of The Greens and now are firmly in control of the party, but that doesn't mean that greenies are going to sit still while u things push your idiot policies under the opuses of green politics. 

     All true greens could do to alleviate the detention policies of the vile Howard government, would be to immediately repatriate these people to the country from which they came.  If that causes their death.  So be it.  Humans are not an endangered species.  True greenies couldn't even let in the people Howard has.  Both legal and illegal.  Greens would have to shut the gate!

    Real greenies would be promising to hand Howard and his cabinet over to the United Nations to be tried and then hung for crimes against humanity.  If we did this, it would put pressure on Briton and America to do the same.  We could well get Bush and Blair hung too. 

    If we did, u could bet that  governments of the major powers would be far less likely to invade other countries with impunity.  Not to mention the fact that such a promise would draw a heap of votes away from labor.  Might even get some off the libs too, u never know.

    Anyway why don't u commies go away.  You're junk ideas have been around for about 100 years now and nobody wants them.  As a matter of fact, communism is one of the major causes of environmental degradation.  Where it's been tried in a big way are the most polluted countries in the world.

    So i say to all communist trash, "Do the planet a favour.  Go away and die!"

    frank brown  

      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Bruce Dyer/ Harideva 
      To: HD 
      Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 9:22 AM
      Subject: [Green-Activist] Australia's immigration record

      From: A & J Nield ajnield at aapt.net.au
      To: DIMA c/o Sandi Logan 
      Cc: MP Andrews, Kevin Lib (Vic Menzies) Min Assis PM for PS;Min Immi & Citizenship 
      Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 10:52 AM
      Subject: Reply to Katy Skinner,Director Protection Client Support & Liaison Section

      Attention Katy Skinner, Director Protection Client Support & Liaison Section:
      Dear Ms Skinner,
      Thanks for your reply March 2nd 2007 to my email of 20th December 2006 to the former Minister of Immigration, Amanda Vanstone concerning individuals in immigration detention who have applied for protection visas.

      Thankyou for explaining the immigration detention processes that are in place
      that "assures the unsuccessful claimants are available for removal from Australia";
      that the RRT has "an obligation to provide a mechanism of review that is fair, just, economical, informal and quick";
      that "appropriately trained health and mental health professionals are used to meet the clinical and support needs of people in detention";
      that the "department has implemented a number of improvements to health care";
      that you have been "advised that Baxter Centre Executive is exercising his authority appropriately" when he ignores the recommendation of a psychiatric assessment and that "Australia has a proud and long tradition as a resettlement destination for refugees from around the world".

      Indefinite detention under DIAC may work for some as you have described, but for hundreds I know it is nothing like the positive process you present. In fact it just rubs salt into the wounds of asylum seekers and those who care for them, including the GSL service providers, who suffer high levels of stress for the un-natural things they have to do to innocent people, to the nurses and health professionals who are prevented from fulfilling their caring oaths, to those staff of DIAC who see the un-necessary suffering and to the long suffering people who are ashamed of the evil of indefinite imprisonment yet cannot turn their backs on the victims. I do recall just one Iranian young man, now working in Whyalla who was relatively unscathed by just a few months of Baxter detention but I've seen far too many eventually recognised as refugees but damaged by years of abuse and victimisation.

      No matter what flowery language is used, driving innocent people to insanity by holding them for up to eight years just so they can be "available for removal" is the twisted idea of a sadist.

      Pretending that taking away a person's freedom, dignity, choice and right to work can be counteracted by providing "health professionals to meet the clinical and support needs of people in detention" is the product of a government stripped of conscience, drunk with power and raped of self respect by its so called leaders. Spending millions of dollars to abuse a class of people just to appear strong on border protection is a crime against humanity amongst the worst of history.

      How can you write that "Australia HAS a proud and long tradition as a resettlement destination for refugees around the world" without acknowledging that ten years of Coalition rule has taken Australia from near the top to near the bottom for human rights observance?

      Allan Nield, Whyalla.

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