[Green-Activist] Fw: Refugee Allowances vs.Aust Pensioners

frank wetherbystn at bigpond.com
Sat Jun 7 16:09:00 EST 2008


Chickened out Graham?

Maybe u can supply the current position re refugee verses pensioner figures? 
I'm sure Bob Conner, who inquired, would like an answer.

He is a member of  The Greens, u know.

frank brown

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Graham Parton" <gparton at hotmail.com>
To: "maillist for Green Activists" <green-activist at lists.altnews.com.au>
Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 7:23 AM
Subject: Re: [Green-Activist] Fw: Refugee Allowances vs.Aust Pensioners


> Don't encourage him, he just goes on and on and on...
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "bill&mika" <mikabill at aapt.net.au>
> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 10:12 PM
> To: "maillist for Green Activists" <green-activist at lists.altnews.com.au>
> Subject: Re: [Green-Activist] Fw: Refugee Allowances vs.Aust Pensioners
>
>> Hi Frank. Im just wondering since you left the Greens how successful you
>> have of deposing the major parties? I have not seen your name in either
>> federal or state parliament. As for the Greens being run by ALP stooges
>> i have to disagree and say they are being run by pro capitalist right
>> wing people and this is increasing as they try to win seats at all costs.
>> regards bill
>>
>>
>>
>> frank wrote:
>>> Sorry Daniel,
>>>
>>> It's u who should get u're facts straight.
>>>
>>> 20 + years in The Greens has given me all the facts i'll ever need.
>>> The Greens will never be a true environmental party while labour
>>> stooges control the key management positions.  And while these people
>>> are constantly allowed to bully party members who oppose them till
>>> they give up and resign.
>>>
>>> I will restate this wasn't true in my case.  In fact, i demonstrated
>>> that by standing up to those bullying tactics, playing strictly by the
>>> rules, u could force the stooges to censure their own.  Unfortunately,
>>> not enough greenies had the ticker for the job, so i resigned to
>>> pursue other avenues of deposing both major parties, restoring
>>> democracy and getting some real action going on the environment.
>>>
>>> As for "real venom ".  It's the same real venom i feel towards any and
>>> all people and institutions who refuse to put the environment
>>> first, last and every other time.
>>>
>>> frank brown
>>>
>>> By the way.  U any relation to Lenore Taylor.  If u are, ask her about
>>> me.
>>>
>>>     ----- Original Message -----
>>>     *From:* daniel taylor <mailto:danielsydney at hotmail.com>
>>>     *To:* maillist for Green Activists
>>>     <mailto:green-activist at lists.altnews.com.au>
>>>     *Sent:* Friday, June 06, 2008 1:47 PM
>>>     *Subject:* Re: [Green-Activist] Fw: Refugee Allowances vs.Aust
>>>     Pensioners
>>>
>>>     Hi there,
>>>
>>>     Now this is real venom I feel. That is uncalled for. The Greens
>>>     are not a sham party or puppets of the ALP. I think Frank better
>>>     get his facts correct before typing such vile lies.
>>>
>>>     Regards,
>>>
>>>     Daniel Taylor
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>         From: wetherbystn at bigpond.com <mailto:wetherbystn at bigpond.com>
>>>         To: green-activist at lists.altnews.com.au
>>>         <mailto:green-activist at lists.altnews.com.au>
>>>         Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 13:29:35 +1000
>>>         Subject: Re: [Green-Activist] Fw: Refugee Allowances vs.Aust
>>>         Pensioners
>>>
>>>         Dear Chris,
>>>
>>>         The bloke who sent it to me was asking for clarification.  I
>>>         was unable to do so because the information i have was dated.
>>>         However, my information did show that refugees get
>>>         approximately twice what pensioners are allowed.  I didn't
>>>         pass this on to him because this may no longer be the case.
>>>
>>>         I assumed that someone would have the currant figures.  I did
>>>         inform him that he can obtain the currant figures under
>>>         freedom of information from the government.
>>>
>>>         As for the rest of your post.  I never mentioned The Greens,
>>>         or asked what they were doing.  Simply because i'm fully aware
>>>         that The Greens are nothing but a sham party doing the bidding
>>>         of their Labour masters.  Further, i'm fully aware of your
>>>         part in this conspiracy.
>>>
>>>         Therefore i'd suggest that crawl back under the rock
>>>         from whence u came.
>>>
>>>         frank brown
>>>
>>>             ----- Original Message -----
>>>             *From:* Chris Chaplin & Jenny Heland Chaplin
>>>             <mailto:chrisjen at techinfo.com.au>
>>>             *To:* maillist for Green Activists
>>>             <mailto:green-activist at lists.altnews.com.au>
>>>             *Sent:* Friday, June 06, 2008 10:50 AM
>>>             *Subject:* Re: [Green-Activist] Fw: Refugee Allowances
>>>             vs.Aust Pensioners
>>>
>>>             Yes, that's right Frank: circulate first, check the facts
>>>             later.  Did Pauline Hanson write this crap?
>>>
>>>             The Greens have been crusading for ages on increasing all
>>>             pensioner entitlements - without needing to call up the
>>>             xenophobic dogs to support our argument.  The following
>>>             media release is an example of the Greens' ongoing campaign.
>>>
>>>             Chris
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>               Budget: Pensioners hopes blighted
>>>
>>>             *14/05/08*
>>>
>>>             The prospect of more than one million Australian
>>>             pensioners getting help to meet soaring food, housing and
>>>             transport costs has been buried by the 2008 budget,
>>>             Australian Greens leader Bob Brown said today.
>>>
>>>             "The budget leaves these grandest of Australia's working
>>>             families struggling on the poverty line," Senator Brown 
>>> said.
>>>
>>>             "The Rudd government has spent $31 billion on inflationary
>>>             tax cuts, $41 billion on 'future funds' for infrastructure
>>>             and $22 billion on defence but has given zero to lift the
>>>             meagre $273 per week pension. The budget should have,
>>>             minimum, lifted single pensions from 59% to two thirds of
>>>             pensions for couples. It should have delivered pensioners
>>>             at least a $30 per week across-the-board income lift."
>>>
>>>             Senator Brown said changes to indexation and utilities
>>>             allowances did not address the inadequacy of the weekly
>>>             pension rate to ensure a decent standard of living.
>>>
>>>             "Treasurer Swan has gifted the big end of town with tax
>>>             cuts boosting income every week, but left pensioners
>>>             struggling with meagre weekly incomes which are a
>>>             disgrace," Senator Brown said.
>>>
>>>
>>>                 ----- Original Message -----
>>>                 *From:* frank <mailto:wetherbystn at bigpond.com>
>>>                 *To:* maillist for Green Activists
>>>                 <mailto:green-activist at lists.altnews.com.au>
>>>                 *Sent:* Tuesday, June 03, 2008 5:19 PM
>>>                 *Subject:* [Green-Activist] Fw: Refugee Allowances
>>>                 vs.Aust Pensioners
>>>
>>>
>>>                 ----- Original Message -----
>>>                 *From:* Robert Alan Connor
>>>                 <mailto:bobconnor at tadaust.org.au>
>>>                 *To:* Undisclosed-Recipient:;
>>>                 <mailto:Undisclosed-Recipient:;>
>>>                 *Sent:* Tuesday, June 03, 2008 12:02 PM
>>>                 *Subject:* Fw: Refugee Allowances vs.Aust Pensioners
>>>
>>>                 Is this true?  How can we verify this ?
>>>                 Please send this to all your e-mail contacts.. Lets
>>>                 give the grubs in Canberra heaps.
>>>                 *****************************************
>>>
>>>                 Australian Govt Refugee Allowances vs.Aust Pensioners
>>>
>>>
>>>                 It is interesting that the* Federal Government
>>>                 provides* a Single Refugee with a monthly allowance of
>>>                 $1,890.00 and each can also get an additional $580. 00
>>>                 in Social Assistance, so a total of $2,470.00 per
>>>                 month. Family of 4 can receive $9,880.00 per month or
>>>                 yearly $118,685
>>>
>>>                 ** A single Australian pensioner who, after
>>>                 contributing to the growth and development of
>>>                 Australia for**** ****40 to 50 years, receives only a
>>>                  monthly maximum of $1,012.00 in old age pension****
>>>                 ****and Guaranteed Income Supplement. (Maybe our
>>>                 pensioners should apply as refugees!) **
>>>
>>>                  *Let's send this to all Australians so we can all be
>>>                 ticked off and maybe we can get  the refugees cut back
>>>                 to $1,012.00 *and the pensioners up to $2,470.00**
>>>                 *and enjoy some of the money we are forced to submit
>>>                 to the Government in taxes.
>>>                 *** *Please** !!?? Forward to every Australian to
>>>                 expose what our elected politicians are doing to the
>>>                 over-taxed Australian*.
>>>
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