From academy.natural.living at iig.com.au  Sun Oct  1 13:39:22 2006
From: academy.natural.living at iig.com.au (John Fielder)
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 13:39:22 +1000
Subject: [Management] FW: Yarrabah Telecommunication Towers
References: <200609290012.k8T0CnYw013046@mail6.tpgi.com.au>
Message-ID: <00d901c6e50b$c8ac64e0$0305a8c0@fielderi07rsip>

Hi Niels,

Many thanks.

 John
John L. Fielder D.O.,N.D.,
Osteopath & Lifestyle Consultant
Academy of Natural Living
www.iig.com.au/anl
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gillian McKenzie" <secrccbi at tpg.com.au>
To: <management at lists.altnews.com.au>
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 10:13 AM
Subject: [Management] FW: Yarrabah Telecommunication Towers




-----Original Message-----
From: Niels Bri?t [mailto:president at cairnsfm891.org]
Sent: Thursday, 28 September 2006 9:22 PM
To: 'John Fielder'; Gillian McKenzie
Subject: FW: Yarrabah Telecommunication Towers

Dear John and Gillian,

I will try to set up Gillian's computer tomorrow so that all email coming to
president at cairnsfm891.org will come to her, and also all emails sent to
info at cairnsfm891.org .

All the best with this.

Regards,


Niels Bri?t
President
Cairns FM 89.1
PO Box 891
Manunda  Qld  4870

Mobile: 0417 66 76 56
Email:  <mailto:president at cairnsfm891.org> president at cairnsfm891.org
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From: McDonald Katherine [mailto:Katherine.McDonald at nrm.qld.gov.au]
Sent: Thursday, 28 September 2006 8:52 AM
To: secretary at cairnsfm891.org
Cc: president at cairnsfm891.org
Subject: Yarrabah Telecommunication Towers

Hi Gillian,
As discussed this morning, please find attached a copy of the State's
position on the Yarrabah Towers issue. Please be advised that this letter
has been sent to all parties.
If you have any concerns please contact Lisa Arnold directly on 3406 2304.
Thanks,
Katie
Katherine McDonald
A/ Research Officer
Indigenous Services
Ph: 3406 2281
Fax: 3406 2385
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From secretary at cairnsfm891.org  Mon Oct  9 10:05:14 2006
From: secretary at cairnsfm891.org (Gillian McKenzie)
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 10:05:14 +1000
Subject: [Management] Agenda:  Meeting this Thursday, 12th October.
Message-ID: <200610090005.k99054SQ012092@mail9.tpgi.com.au>

 

Hi Everyone, 

 

John has asked that we meet again to keep sorting things out.  I am aware
that it is time for the second half of the stipends from 05-06 to be paid to
Niels, Kath and myself, the first half having been paid in March of this
year.  This payment is retroactive, and we don't want him to miss out.

 

John wants us to consider contracting people to fulfil management duties,
similar to a stipend format but on a contract basis.  I'm not absolutely
sure want you mean John, but I think that Kath would be contracted to do the
finances, Paul the tech work, myself the secretarial and transmission site
and program .. Etc, and maybe other people to do other things, like the
grants.  What does everyone think about this?  I figure that if we all know
and have thought about it before the meeting we are more likely to come to a
reasonable decision in the shortest possible time.  I also hope that the
Board members can be operating in a cohesive manner before any other people
become involved.

 

I miss Niels and the closeness we had, the support we gave each other and
his consistent interest in keeping the station running.  I suppose I should
send you all the minutes of the last meeting.  Oh well, later.

 

Love ..... Gill

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Gillian McKenzie 

Secretary

Cairns FM 89.1

PO Box 891

Manunda  Qld  4870

 

Mobile: 0416 240 814

Email: secretary at cairnsfm891.org

 

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From president at cairnsfm891.org  Tue Oct 10 07:10:59 2006
From: president at cairnsfm891.org (John Fielder)
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 07:10:59 +1000
Subject: [Management] Agenda:  Meeting this Thursday, 12th October.
References: <200610090005.k99054SQ012092@mail9.tpgi.com.au>
Message-ID: <01af01c6ebe7$76b676c0$0305a8c0@fielderi07rsip>

Hi All,

There appears to be some misunderstanding as to my proposal, so in an endeavour to clarify it here are my comments.

Firstly allow me to say that whatever term or name we use to describe any payment made to any-one, whether it be wages,salary, dividend,contractual agreement,stipend,emolument, or such like, these all mean payment for services rendered. It is only a matter of semantics as to which one we choose to use in most instances.

Due to common usage there are slightly different connotations, such as in the use of stipend and emolument, these are usually used to denote services considered over and beyond the normal. This is not necessarily so though, as in the case of a minister of religion,as his duties are accepted as normal.

We could further analyse the different terms by saying that:
  a.. Wages consist of a contract between the employer and employee for a specified payment for a specified period of hours work
  b.. Salary consists of a contract between the employer and employer for a specified payment for a specified return(one which will turn a profit), with un-specified hours
  c.. Contractual agreement is an agreement between two parties for the completion of a specified job in which both parties have agreed to a specific payment which the contractor hopes to make a profit, and the contractee hopes to have a satisfactory completion of the job.
In all instances there is an expectation. An expectation by the salary,wages, etc.,earner that he will receive the money(s) promised, and by the employer that he will be recompensed by way of honesty,loyalty, and a fair days work.

In the case of the stipend and emolument, this is considered to be more of a moral right or obligation, whereas in the case of wages,salary etc., more of a legal right or obligation.

Having said all of that, I am appealing to us all, myself included, please do not let us get caught up in the semantics of the situation.

My reason for suggesting a contractual basis for bringing in, and the payment of, any-one to carry out any duties for which they are paid, whether we call it a stipend or whatever, is the simple fact that we then are not embroiled in having to pay taxes,holiday payetc., and all the other requirements of an employer employing some-one on wages or salary.

As mentioned earlier,my reason for using the contractual basis, in preference to stipend or emolument, has to do with the subtle difference of expectation which is implied by the usage of these terms. In the first we are saying, yes we do expect a certain level of compliance,whereas in the second we are hoping for a certain level of compliance. And yes, I agree that it might well appear a splitting of hairs. Yet I do feel it is necessary that we give it due consideration.

I wish to thank you all for your support at this time as we go through the inevitable process of re-alignment, and trust that my endeavours at clarification have not further muddied the waters for you.Further, I do wish to acknowledge the wonderful job that Niels did for the station, much of it over and above the call of duty. I apologise for not being able to step directly into his shoes and follow suit.I neither have the time nor the enrgy to do so. With your continued assistance and support, we shall find the necessary solutions to any problems that may, and will arise, and go on to bigger and better things.

Thanking you, and looking forward to our meeting again on Thursday.

Regards,

 John

 
John L. Fielder D.O.,N.D.,
Osteopath & Lifestyle Consultant
Academy of Natural Living
www.iig.com.au/anl
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Gillian McKenzie 
  To: management at lists.altnews.com.au 
  Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 10:05 AM
  Subject: [Management] Agenda: Meeting this Thursday, 12th October.


   

  Hi Everyone, 

   

  John has asked that we meet again to keep sorting things out.  I am aware that it is time for the second half of the stipends from 05-06 to be paid to Niels, Kath and myself, the first half having been paid in March of this year.  This payment is retroactive, and we don't want him to miss out.

   

  John wants us to consider contracting people to fulfil management duties, similar to a stipend format but on a contract basis.  I'm not absolutely sure want you mean John, but I think that Kath would be contracted to do the finances, Paul the tech work, myself the secretarial and transmission site and program .. Etc, and maybe other people to do other things, like the grants.  What does everyone think about this?  I figure that if we all know and have thought about it before the meeting we are more likely to come to a reasonable decision in the shortest possible time.  I also hope that the Board members can be operating in a cohesive manner before any other people become involved.

   

  I miss Niels and the closeness we had, the support we gave each other and his consistent interest in keeping the station running.  I suppose I should send you all the minutes of the last meeting.  Oh well, later.

   

  Love ..... Gill

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

  Gillian McKenzie 

  Secretary

  Cairns FM 89.1

  PO Box 891

  Manunda  Qld  4870

   

  Mobile: 0416 240 814

  Email: secretary at cairnsfm891.org

   

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From jlf1 at activ8.net.au  Tue Oct 10 14:04:41 2006
From: jlf1 at activ8.net.au (anl1@activ8.net.au)
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 14:04:41 +1000
Subject: [Management] Agenda:  Meeting this Thursday, 12th October.
References: <200610090005.k99054SQ012092@mail9.tpgi.com.au>
Message-ID: <008701c6ec26$270a32d0$0305a8c0@fielderi07rsip>

Hi All,

Further to my earlier epistle, and relevant to the fact that I did not address one major aspect to the effect that my proposal to the board will be that we consider taking on board some-one to do some of the work which was previously handled by Niels and Gillian. 

I have no doubt that we all agree that Niels recent illness was greatly effected by the overload of work which he was carrying.

It is my wish that the same effect not be experienced by Gillian, or any other member of the board, including myself for that matter.It is with this thought uppermost in my mind that I make this proposal to the board, and present it for consideration at Thursday night's meeting.

As I view it, it can simply be a re-allocation of funds. Where previously we have been paying Niels a stipend in return for some of the time and effort he put into the station, this money can now be used for the purpose of employing some-one to fulfill some of the duties previously born by Niels and Gillian.

The name given to the payment of this person is irrelevant in many ways, as I mentioned in my earlier e-mail. Except that by utilising the contractual,emolument, or stipend method we do relieve ourselves of the burden of complying with certain of the laws regarding  employment .

With this in mind, I have made a tentative approach to Dianne Jensen, who has been a member of the station for some time and presented a programme. Dianne has the necessary expertise in the areas required, such as computer literacy, etc. And having known Dianne for many years can vouch for her honesty and reliability. And best of all, she would love to be involved if  it would assist us and the station.

I look forward to our meeting on Thursday to discuss this matter further.

If in the meantime any-one wishes to discuss this matter further with me, prior to Thursday, Please feel free to call me any day after 3pm. on 4093-7989.

Regards,

 John  
John L. Fielder D.O.,N.D.,
Osteopath & Lifestyle Consultant
Academy of Natural Living
www.iig.com.au/anl
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Gillian McKenzie 
  To: management at lists.altnews.com.au 
  Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 10:05 AM
  Subject: [Management] Agenda: Meeting this Thursday, 12th October.


   

  Hi Everyone, 

   

  John has asked that we meet again to keep sorting things out.  I am aware that it is time for the second half of the stipends from 05-06 to be paid to Niels, Kath and myself, the first half having been paid in March of this year.  This payment is retroactive, and we don't want him to miss out.

   

  John wants us to consider contracting people to fulfil management duties, similar to a stipend format but on a contract basis.  I'm not absolutely sure want you mean John, but I think that Kath would be contracted to do the finances, Paul the tech work, myself the secretarial and transmission site and program .. Etc, and maybe other people to do other things, like the grants.  What does everyone think about this?  I figure that if we all know and have thought about it before the meeting we are more likely to come to a reasonable decision in the shortest possible time.  I also hope that the Board members can be operating in a cohesive manner before any other people become involved.

   

  I miss Niels and the closeness we had, the support we gave each other and his consistent interest in keeping the station running.  I suppose I should send you all the minutes of the last meeting.  Oh well, later.

   

  Love ..... Gill

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

  Gillian McKenzie 

  Secretary

  Cairns FM 89.1

  PO Box 891

  Manunda  Qld  4870

   

  Mobile: 0416 240 814

  Email: secretary at cairnsfm891.org

   

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From jlf1 at activ8.net.au  Tue Oct 10 14:04:41 2006
From: jlf1 at activ8.net.au (anl1@activ8.net.au)
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 14:04:41 +1000
Subject: [Management] Agenda:  Meeting this Thursday, 12th October.
References: <200610090005.k99054SQ012092@mail9.tpgi.com.au>
Message-ID: <000501c6ec26$29d560c0$0305a8c0@fielderi07rsip>

Hi All,

Further to my earlier epistle, and relevant to the fact that I did not address one major aspect to the effect that my proposal to the board will be that we consider taking on board some-one to do some of the work which was previously handled by Niels and Gillian. 

I have no doubt that we all agree that Niels recent illness was greatly effected by the overload of work which he was carrying.

It is my wish that the same effect not be experienced by Gillian, or any other member of the board, including myself for that matter.It is with this thought uppermost in my mind that I make this proposal to the board, and present it for consideration at Thursday night's meeting.

As I view it, it can simply be a re-allocation of funds. Where previously we have been paying Niels a stipend in return for some of the time and effort he put into the station, this money can now be used for the purpose of employing some-one to fulfill some of the duties previously born by Niels and Gillian.

The name given to the payment of this person is irrelevant in many ways, as I mentioned in my earlier e-mail. Except that by utilising the contractual,emolument, or stipend method we do relieve ourselves of the burden of complying with certain of the laws regarding  employment .

With this in mind, I have made a tentative approach to Dianne Jensen, who has been a member of the station for some time and presented a programme. Dianne has the necessary expertise in the areas required, such as computer literacy, etc. And having known Dianne for many years can vouch for her honesty and reliability. And best of all, she would love to be involved if  it would assist us and the station.

I look forward to our meeting on Thursday to discuss this matter further.

If in the meantime any-one wishes to discuss this matter further with me, prior to Thursday, Please feel free to call me any day after 3pm. on 4093-7989.

Regards,

 John  
John L. Fielder D.O.,N.D.,
Osteopath & Lifestyle Consultant
Academy of Natural Living
www.iig.com.au/anl
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Gillian McKenzie 
  To: management at lists.altnews.com.au 
  Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 10:05 AM
  Subject: [Management] Agenda: Meeting this Thursday, 12th October.


   

  Hi Everyone, 

   

  John has asked that we meet again to keep sorting things out.  I am aware that it is time for the second half of the stipends from 05-06 to be paid to Niels, Kath and myself, the first half having been paid in March of this year.  This payment is retroactive, and we don't want him to miss out.

   

  John wants us to consider contracting people to fulfil management duties, similar to a stipend format but on a contract basis.  I'm not absolutely sure want you mean John, but I think that Kath would be contracted to do the finances, Paul the tech work, myself the secretarial and transmission site and program .. Etc, and maybe other people to do other things, like the grants.  What does everyone think about this?  I figure that if we all know and have thought about it before the meeting we are more likely to come to a reasonable decision in the shortest possible time.  I also hope that the Board members can be operating in a cohesive manner before any other people become involved.

   

  I miss Niels and the closeness we had, the support we gave each other and his consistent interest in keeping the station running.  I suppose I should send you all the minutes of the last meeting.  Oh well, later.

   

  Love ..... Gill

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

  Gillian McKenzie 

  Secretary

  Cairns FM 89.1

  PO Box 891

  Manunda  Qld  4870

   

  Mobile: 0416 240 814

  Email: secretary at cairnsfm891.org

   

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From secretary at cairnsfm891.org  Sat Oct 14 10:33:42 2006
From: secretary at cairnsfm891.org (Gillian McKenzie)
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 10:33:42 +1000
Subject: [Management] How we can do this
Message-ID: <200610140033.k9E0XNKF012286@mail4.tpgi.com.au>

Hi Guys,

 

Apparently Mark is coming back on Monday or Wednesday.  Just a thought about
how to do all the things we need to do, and remain volunteers (because we
are going to need money for the upkeep of and access to the Transmission
site, as an ongoing expense), how about TEAMS?  

 

Every presenter has to be on a TEAM.  We could have LIBRARY, TRANSMISSION
SITE, ETHNIC AFFAIRS, TECHNOLOGY, ADMINISTRATION, SPONSORSHIPS and TREASURY
teams.

The Board Members are the TEAM LEADERS, and THE TEAM MEMBERS HAVE TO DO WHAT
THE TEAM LEADER SAYS. !!!!!!!!!!!!  As you can see, I am enjoying writing
this email.  I know, dream on Gill !!  But seriously, if we take it
seriously, and because it is a time of change anyway, the members will
probably take it seriously too.  If they don't, they get shunned!!  OK well,
maybe they'll succumb to good old peer pressure, or heightened conscience,
or something.  Maybe the fact that John has been asking everybody to do
anything will stimulate some action, and we can herd them all into these
TEAMS.  

 

I am hereby volunteering to be the TEAM LEADER OF ADMINISTRATION AND
TRANSMISSION SITE.  Maybe that way I'll be able to find someone to collect
the mail next time I go to Brisbane.  I can't help thinking that with 100
members someone should be willing to unlock a couple of mailboxes twice in
11 days.  I am also pondering the position of LIBRARY TEAM LEADER.  

 

Anyway, just a thought on this beautiful Saturday morning.

 

Love ........ Gill

 

 

Gillian McKenzie

 

 

 

            

Secretary

Cairns FM 89.1

PO Box 891

Manunda  Qld  4870

 

Mobile: 0416 240 814

Email: secretary at cairnsfm891.org

 

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From president at cairnsfm891.org  Sat Oct 14 14:18:06 2006
From: president at cairnsfm891.org (John Fielder)
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 14:18:06 +1000
Subject: [Management] How we can do this
References: <200610140033.k9E0XNKF012286@mail4.tpgi.com.au>
Message-ID: <006901c6ef47$cba0fe40$0305a8c0@fielderi07rsip>

Hi Gill,

Excellent suggestion. So pleased that you are thinking creativel.Thank you.

Let us all consider where we fit in and make our decisions at the next board meeting?

Regards,

 John


John L. Fielder D.O.,N.D.,
Osteopath & Lifestyle Consultant
Academy of Natural Living
www.iig.com.au/anl
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Gillian McKenzie 
  To: management at lists.altnews.com.au 
  Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 10:33 AM
  Subject: [Management] How we can do this


  Hi Guys,

   

  Apparently Mark is coming back on Monday or Wednesday.  Just a thought about how to do all the things we need to do, and remain volunteers (because we are going to need money for the upkeep of and access to the Transmission site, as an ongoing expense), how about TEAMS?  

   

  Every presenter has to be on a TEAM.  We could have LIBRARY, TRANSMISSION SITE, ETHNIC AFFAIRS, TECHNOLOGY, ADMINISTRATION, SPONSORSHIPS and TREASURY teams.

  The Board Members are the TEAM LEADERS, and THE TEAM MEMBERS HAVE TO DO WHAT THE TEAM LEADER SAYS. !!!!!!!!!!!!  As you can see, I am enjoying writing this email.  I know, dream on Gill !!  But seriously, if we take it seriously, and because it is a time of change anyway, the members will probably take it seriously too.  If they don't, they get shunned!!  OK well, maybe they'll succumb to good old peer pressure, or heightened conscience, or something.  Maybe the fact that John has been asking everybody to do anything will stimulate some action, and we can herd them all into these TEAMS.  

   

  I am hereby volunteering to be the TEAM LEADER OF ADMINISTRATION AND TRANSMISSION SITE.  Maybe that way I'll be able to find someone to collect the mail next time I go to Brisbane.  I can't help thinking that with 100 members someone should be willing to unlock a couple of mailboxes twice in 11 days.  I am also pondering the position of LIBRARY TEAM LEADER.  

   

  Anyway, just a thought on this beautiful Saturday morning.

   

  Love ........ Gill

   

   

  Gillian McKenzie

   

   

   

              

  Secretary

  Cairns FM 89.1

  PO Box 891

  Manunda  Qld  4870

   

  Mobile: 0416 240 814

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